Guide - [EXTREME EFFORT] The Great Ironman Progression Guide (2024)

Thanks for appreciating my reply.

I myself farmed lapis too, but after realizing i still got 2 tapped by the ice walkers, I changed my mind on that part of progression.

Surprisingly enough, mushroom contests have been of course upped for gold medal, but if you have a mooshroom cow pet you will be in the "bulk" of the players: everyone breaks the same amount of cane blocks per minute, and mooshroom cow pet mushroom drops aren't affected by farming fortune.

For the viability of tank in f5 to f7, well i'm already tank in f5, and i'm planning to remain so until mm3 ish.

As for the juju shortbow, i believe t2s drop beteween 14 to 21 null spheres, so the number is gonna vary, and i don't think 300 t2s is too much to pay for a weapon as powerful as the juju shortbow.

On the lower floors, tank outclasses healer. You gain additional defense, 20 second invincibility and the ability to 1 shot mobs in a big aoe radius, albeit the 15 seconds cooldown.

Adaptive blade costs not only a bunch of coins but requires you to do f3. It has slightly more damage then a good quality earth shard but no additional crit dmg or strenght, rendering it worse in terms of dps, not to mention the absence of defense.

"don't believe that Young or Holy Dragon would be enough for F5." I will allow myself to laugh at that. A lot of people have told me that, and yet I went into f5 with holy dragon armor, tank class, no hpb and my poop stats. I'll prob send a doc explaining the details but heres tldr: as a tank you're gonna use a double healing helmet. Therefore, set bonuses do not matter. In terms of raw, ehp stats, holy dragon is the best dungeonizable choice, surpassing old, protector and super heavy.
And yes, it surpasses adaptive too. Adaptive gives you 515 health and 245 defense where holy gives you 500 health and 515 defense. It's a very underrated set.

SF is a pretty good weapon all around but in each domain it is surpassed by something else.

I do not understand the purpose of giant sa. If you're going for ehp, you should take necrolord. If you're taking sa, then you're taking damage setup, then you should use fierce or something like that.
I was quite unclear on the next part, i meant to say that purchasing the wither helmet from the chests is optional.
As for the tarantula helmet, i believe that at about cata 25 it is surpassed by the shadow assassin helmet for damage, since the extra 100 crit damage you get from radioactive (assuming you have 1k strenght) isn't multiplied by your catacombs level.

"but you really don't want to reach Zombie Slayer IX and still not have a Warden's Heart." that would suck big time.

Sorry about not understanding that part, i was a lil' confused.

For the next part i was very stupid. I meant to say that difference is minimal between ornate and normal. But obv as soon as you get the mats upgrade it, just don't actively grind for gpowder and healing tissues.

My bad again, i misunderstood that, tho i would be curious how the Florid Zombie Sword + Necromancy Sword + Soul Whip with full Necromancer works.

Oh right. I believe soulwhip's only use is to mana steal during the t4 phase where the boss goes into beams mode. Although i guess you can use it for hit phases too, haven't tried it.

For voidedge clarification: if you need healing, use livid dagger. However you can't upgrade voidedge to vorpal without atoms, which drop from t3 eman. And your livid dagger won't be enough damage this time. I meant to say that for t3 you will have to use fd+voidedge+ souflow because of it's ability that gives ferocity, which stacks well with damage boost and attack speed from fd.

I cannot give my opinion on gs due to lack of testing, however if you need more regen the ferocity+lifesteal would help more. (I think? correct me if needed).

kill 64 T1 Voidlings
kill 189 T2 Voidlings (triggers me a lot no offence)
kill 128 T3 Voidling

You should probably divide between optimal and budget setup.

As for gemstone mining, the chance to drop a flawless ruby is 0.00494242%, which makes it on average rarer then alloy. It takes about 20 hours to acquire a gauntlet supposing bal pet, yog with fine gemstones and a 355/ruby drill.

Again, thanks for answering my replies and not being like many others.

Sincerely,

Auroresta